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@ 50512 80後-希望還是迷失
A 你覺得我們80後是怎樣的一代人呢？
nǐ juéde wǒmen bālíng hòu shì zěnyàng de yī dài rén ne?
What do you think about our generation, the children of the '80s?
B 怎麼突然想起問這個？
zěnme tūrán xiǎng qǐ wèn zhège?
How did you suddenly think to ask?
A 大家都說我們是中國的現在和未來，另外又是爭議特別大的一代人。
dàjiā dōu shuō wǒmen shì Zhōngguó de xiànzài hé wèilái, lìngwài yòu shì zhēngyì tèbié dà de yī dài rén.
Everyone says we're the present and future of China. We're also a very controversial generation.
B 這當然，我們是中國社會和文化變革的產物。與此同時身上也集合了很多矛盾，就像中國社會。而且我們也是富有希望、個性和夢想的一代，這也和現在的中國一樣。
zhè dāngrán, wǒmen shì Zhōngguó shèhuì hé wénhuà biàngé de chǎnwù. yǔcǐtóngshí shēnshàng yě jíhé le hěn duō máodùn, jiùxiàng Zhōngguó shèhuì. érqiě wǒmen yě shì fùyǒu xīwàng, gèxìng hé mèngxiǎng de yī dài, zhè yě hé xiànzài de Zhōngguó yīyàng.
Of course! We're the products of social and cultural transformation in China. And so we have a lot of contradictions, just like Chinese society. And we're a generation rich in hope, individuality, and dreams. This is also just like modern China.
A 嗯，好多人還把我們看作是傳統中國觀念和價值與現代的分水嶺。可我覺得我們不是顛覆，仍然傳承了祖宗的文化，只是以一種更新的方式來表達。我們的思想更加獨立，也更創新和包容。
ng4, hǎo duō rén hái bǎ wǒmen kànzuò shì chuántǒng Zhōngguó guānniàn hé jiàzhí yǔ xiàndài de fēnshuǐlǐng. kě wǒ juéde wǒmen bù shì diānfù, réngrán chuánchéng le zǔzōng de wénhuà, zhǐshì yǐ yī zhǒng gèng xīn de fāngshì lái biǎodá. wǒmen de sīxiǎng gèngjiā dúlì, yě gèng chuàngxīn hé bāoróng.
Ah, a lot of people see us as the dividing line between modern and traditional Chinese ideas and values. But I don't think we're revolutionaries. We've inherited the culture of our ancestors, but we use an updated method to express it. Our thinking is more independent, innovative, and tolerant.
B 是啊。你看，像超女、韓寒、劉翔，都代表了這一代張揚、自信的中國人。我覺得這就是新的中國形象。不過也有好多人看不慣，認為我們太過自我，缺乏責任感和集體意識，把祖先留下來的優良傳統都給丟了。
shì ā. nǐ kàn, xiàng Chāonǚ, Hán Hán, Liú Xiáng, dōu dàibiǎo le zhè yī dài zhāngyáng, zìxìn de zhōngguórén. wǒ juéde zhè jiùshì xīn de Zhōngguó xíngxiàng. bùguò yě yǒu hǎo duō rén kànbuguàn, rènwéi wǒmen tài guò zìwǒ, quēfá zérèngǎn hé jítǐ yìshi, bǎ zǔxiān liú xiàlai de yōuliáng chuántǒng dōu gěi diū le.
Yeah. Look at ``Super Girl," the blogger Han Han, and the runner Liu Xiang. They all stand for a new, self-confident kind of Chinese person. I think they're the new image of China. But there are a lot of people who don't care for them. They say they're too egotistical, lacking a sense of responsibility and social awareness. They've lost all the great traditions that our ancestors handed down.
A 這種說法也太片面了。的確是有一些80後在這方面做得不夠好。但是也不能一竿子打翻一船人啊。我覺得我們所表現的是最真實的自己，這也正是我們這代人最可貴的地方。我就覺得有句話說得很對。真實是一切美好希望的開始。
zhè zhǒng shuōfa yě tài piànmiàn le. díquè shì yǒu yīxiē bālíng hòu zài zhè fāngmiàn zuò de bùgòu hǎo. dànshì yě bùnéng yī gānzi dǎfān yī chuán rén ā. wǒ juéde wǒmen suǒ biǎoxiàn de shì zuì zhēnshí de zìjǐ, zhè yě zhèng shì wǒmen zhè dài rén zuì kěguì de dìfang. wǒ jiù juéde yǒu jù huà shuō de hěn duì. zhēnshí shì yīqiè měihǎo xīwàng de kāishǐ.
That interpretation is too one-sided. There are some things that the children of the 80s haven't done well enough. But you can't paint with such a broad brush. I think what we show is our truest selves. That's the most valuable part of our generation. I think one sentence really says it all: truth is the start of all beautiful hopes.
B 喲，真看不出來你是個文學青年啊，還引經據典呢。
yō, zhēn kàn bu chūlái nǐ shì ge wénxué qīngnián ā, hái yǐnjīngjùdiǎn ne.
Ah, you can't tell by looking that you're such a literate young fellow. You can even work in some classical quotes!
A 不跟你說了。你淨拿我開玩笑。
bù gēn nǐ shuō le. nǐ jìng ná wǒ kāi wánxiào.
I don't want to talk to you anymore. You're just making fun of me.
B 別生氣嘛。我覺得你剛才說的挺有道理的。我一直覺得我們的成長曆程挺畸形的。一方面集中了家庭的所有寵愛和呵護，另一方面又肩負了巨大的壓力。我們且不說社會對我們的期望，單單父母長輩們望子成龍、望女成鳳的願望就把我們壓得夠嗆。搞得我們一點童年樂趣都沒有。
bié shēngqì ma. wǒ juéde nǐ gāngcái shuō de tǐng yǒu dàolǐ de. wǒ yīzhí juéde wǒmen de chéngzhǎng lìchéng tǐng jīxíng de. yīfāngmiàn jízhōng le jiātíng de suǒyǒu chǒng'ài hé hēhù, lìngyīfāngmiàn yòu jiānfù le jùdà de yālì. wǒmen qiě bù shuō shèhuì duì wǒmen de qīwàng, dāndān fùmǔ zhǎngbèi men wàngzǐchénglóng, wàngnǚchéngfèng de yuànwàng jiù bǎ wǒmen yā de gòuqiàng. gǎo de wǒmen yīdiǎn tóngnián lèqù dōu méiyǒu.
Don't get angry. I think what you just said is very true. I've always thought that our process of growing up was pretty lopsided. On the one hand, we've got all our family's love and protection. And on the other hand we have to shoulder a ton of pressure. Forget about the hopes society places on us; our parents' and elders' lofty wishes for us give us a huge amount of pressure. They crush all the joy of childhood out of us.
A 難怪會有韓寒這種“憤青”了。看什麼都不爽。
nánguài huì yǒu Hán Hán zhè zhǒng `` fènqīng" le. kàn shénme dōu bù shuǎng.
It's no wonder there are angry young people like Han Han. They're never happy with anything.
B 是啊，好多人都把他看作80後的代言人，所以給所有的80後都扣了一頂帽子。說我們既沒有父輩的理想和追求，也沒有學到他們的奮鬥和自省精神，總之把我們說成是沒有靈魂和思想“缺鈣”的一代。
shì ā, hǎo duō rén dōu bǎ tā kànzuò bālíng hòu de dàiyánrén, suǒyǐ gěi suǒyǒu de bālíng hòu dōu kòu le yī dǐng màozi. shuō wǒmen jì méiyǒu fùbèi de lǐxiǎng hé zhuīqiú, yě méiyǒu xuédào tāmen de fèndòu hé zìxǐng jīngshén, zǒngzhī bǎ wǒmen shuōchéng shì méiyǒu línghún hé sīxiǎng `` quēgài" de yī dài.
Yeah. A lot of people see him as the spokesperson for children of the '80s. So he's given everyone from that generation a certain stigma. They say that we don't have the ideals and aspirations of our elders, and that we haven't learned their spirit of struggle and self-examination. They say we're a soulless generation that doesn't know how to think.
A 太過分了，怎麼能這樣？以前以為80後和前輩在網上開罵這種行為很可笑，現在看來真的有開罵的必要了。
tài guòfèn le, zěnme néng zhèyàng? yǐqián yǐwéi bālíng hòu hé qiánbèi zài wǎngshàng kāimà zhè zhǒng xíngwéi hěn kěxiào, xiànzài kànlái zhēnde yǒu kāimà de bìyào le.
That's over the top. How can they say that? In the past I always thought that online shouting matches between the children of the '80s and the older generation were ridiculous. Now it looks like there's really a need for some yelling.
B 有什麼好罵的？ 最重要的是我們80後要用自己的頭腦來思考，作出合理的判斷。至於我們到底是希望還是迷失的一代，我想，時間是最好的證明。
yǒu shénme hǎo mà de? zuì zhòngyào de shì wǒmen bālíng hòu yào yòng zìjǐ de tóunǎo lái sīkǎo, zuòchū hélǐ de pànduàn. zhìyú wǒmen dàodǐ shì xīwàng háishi míshī de yī dài, wǒ xiǎng, shíjiān shì zuìhǎo de zhèngmíng.
What is there to yell about? The most important thing is for us to use our brains and make reasonable judgments. As for whether we are actually a generation of hope or a lost generation, I think time will be the best proof.
Key Vocabulary
分水嶺 fēnshuǐlǐng division line
顛覆 diānfù to subvert
傳承 chuánchéng to inherit
張揚 zhāngyáng to publicize
一竿子打翻一船人 yī gānzi dǎfān yī chuán rén to criticize a group by over-generalization
引經據典 yǐnjīngjùdiǎn to quote the classics
歷程 lìchéng process
畸形 jīxíng abnormal
夠嗆 gòuqiàng unbearable
憤青 fènqīng angst-ridden youth
Supplementary Vocabulary
叛逆 pànnì to rebel
衝動 chōngdòng impulsive
焦點 jiāodiǎn focus
寄生蟲 jìshēngchóng parasite
敗家子 bàijiāzǐ a child who squandered the family fortune
與生俱來 yǔshēngjùlái innate
嬌生慣養 jiāoshēngguànyǎng pampered from childhood
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